HAS Young Astronomers Group:

below are a few photos; there are more further down!


Our Young Astronomers Group was originally founded by our late Secretary Frances Ridgley, and was re-established in 2021. It provides a friendly setting for young people aged 8-16 to find out more about astronomy and make friends with other youngsters with a common interest in the subject.

 

The group meets at Thames Chase Forest Centre on the last Thursday of the month at 7pm (except in August), and meetings usually last just over an hour. Our activities include:

 

  • Talks by HAS members on a variety of astronomical topics, including spaceflight, the solar system, the night sky, stars, galaxies and black holes.
  • Space news and what is in the night sky
  • Monthly newsletter with Peter’s observing notes
  • Activities to do between meetings
  • The New Year Quiz at the December meeting with nibbles
  • Observing after our meetings (if it is dark and the sky is clear) and at special sessions throughout the year, including our popular Perseids meteor observing session in mid-August
  • Advice about buying telescopes and binoculars
  • Telescope loan scheme
  • An annual outing to a place of astronomical interest. In October 2022 we had a very successful trip to the Royal Observatory in Greenwich; and in November 2023, to the Bayfordbury Observatory, part of the University of Hertfordshire (see below for details about the latter). These visits are made possible through the kind donation made by Ian Ridgley and family in memory of Frances Ridgley, late Society founder member and long time Society Secretary.

 

The group is led by Les Brand, our Outreach Officer, who works part-time as a Support Astronomer and Adult Astronomy Tutor at the Royal Observatory Greenwich, and other colleagues in the Havering Astronomical Society. For further information, please e-mail Liz Watson at young.astronomers@havastro.co.uk.


YA meetings and activities:

info and photos from selected dates are below

March 2024 - Black holes: talk and activities

Les Brand gave a talk on black holes, a topic which had been requested by the Young Astronomers, divided into two parts. In the first half, he spoke about the life-cycle of massive stars and how they end their lives in a supernova explosion, producing a very dense neutron star or a black hole, depending on the initial mass of the star. This was followed by a hands-on activity, using balloons wrapped in tin foil, which showed how stars keep their mass despite internal changes within the star, then how they are compressed into a small ball with the same mass.


The second part of the talk was about how black holes were first found, and how they can be detected. Les then spoke about the supermassive black holes at the centre of the elliptical galaxy M87 (in Virgo) and of our galaxy (called Sagittarius A*). The evening ended with the second activity, which used buckets, balls of different sizes and stretchy fabric to explore how “matter tells spacetime how to curve, and curved spacetime tells matter how to move” (Prof John Wheeler). Straws and tiny balls were used to find out how the escape velocity varies with mass of the object.


Photo credits: Les Jones


February 2024 - Possibility of life on exoplanets: talk and activity

We began the meeting with 'Are There Aliens', a video about the possibility of life on other planets; the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMXgTLopRx0. This was followed by an activity, involving the YAs drawing possible lifeforms on five exoplanets. They had to relate their proposed lifeform to conditions on the planet they had chosen, and came up with a wide range of imaginative possibilities.


After the break Peter Morris gave a talk on the topic. He said that alien life might be simple, like slime on Earth. Even simple organisms change their planet’s atmosphere, producing chemical signals which may indicate the presence of life. K2 18b (a planet orbiting a red dwarf star) has an exotic chemical in its atmosphere called dimethyl sulphide. Is this the first sign of life outside Earth?


Photo credits: #1, 3 and 4 - Les Jones; #2 - Les Brand

Video credit: Royal Observatory Greenwich


January 2024 - Telescopes: talk and hands-on session

Les Brand gave a detailed talk about telescopes and binoculars, with a lot of practical information about acquiring and using them. We also had a hands-on session, looking at a wide range of scopes and binoculars set up in the Education Room and the Barn (we didn't go outside, as it wasn't a clear night). 

Les also demonstrated the ZWO Seestar smart telescope, which can be operated via an app (see image #3, Dec 2023 - below - for a photo of the Moon taken with the Seestar). Please see Les' slides, in PDF format; also accessible via the middle, orange button further above, marked 'Telescopes, mounts and how to use them' (and please feel free to look at Peter Morris' guide to telescopes, also quoted on that PDF). 


Many thanks to club members who brought in equipment, and who helped out in any way on the evening.


Photos #1-2 by Les Jones; #3-4 by Emma Christmas; #5 by Liz Watson


December 2023 - Quiz, feedback session and observing

The YAs did well in our Christmas/New Year Quiz - a mix of true/false and multi-choice questions.  After a break for some festive nibbles, Les Brand held an interactive feedback session, asking the YAs their thoughts on the club, and what their favourite space and astronomy topics are - and their parents, via a questionnaire, what they'd like to get out of the club in 2024.  We are grateful to the adults who completed our survey; we also plan to e-mail this more widely round the YA section shortly. 


The skies were clear, so we then had an observing session outside (image #3 was taken that evening).


Photo credits: #1 and 3 - Les Brand; #2 - Magda Wheatley



November 2023 - Asterisms talk and activity

Peter Morris gave a talk about, and held an activity on, Asterisms. The YAs learned the differences between constellations and asterisms, and were shown examples of the latter; with animations to help illustrate some descriptive names. Also, using thick white felt pens, they drew asterisms of their own design, on A3-sized starcharts, depicting the night sky at various seasons (printed from Stellarium, planetarium software), and showed them to the rest of the audience.


Photos #1 by Les Jones; #2-4 by Magda Wheatley


Visit to Bayfordbury Observatory, University of Hertfordshire -

18 November 2023, 6-8pm

[this info also appears on our Events and Activities page, for adult members]


A very successful visit to Bayfordbury Observatory, at the University of Hertfordshire, organised by Les Brand. Thirty three people attended: a mix of Young Astronomers and their parents, plus adult club members. 


The evening opened with a talk by Calum about astronomy, covering aspects such as the structure of the universe, star development, and the university's own research.  There was then a thrilling planetarium show, presented by Ashley.  After this, we went outside, to see the radio and optical telescopes, and had a fascinating time learning how the 50cm Cassegrain and the 24” CDK telescopes are used. 


This visit was made possible through the kind donation made by Ian Ridgley and family in memory of Frances Ridgley, late Society founder member and long time Society Secretary.


Our thanks are due to Mily Riley, Bayfordbury Education Officer, and to Calum and Ashley.  We are very grateful to Les Brand for organising this visit.  See more photos below.


Further information:

Bayfordbury Observatory is the University of Hertfordshire's teaching observatory for astronomy and astrophysics.

  • Click here for info on its teaching and research, plus resources for adults, and children of various age groups.
  • Check out the HOYS Citizen Science project, which observes nearby young clusters and star-forming regions to study their variable young stars.


Photo credits: #1 - Magda Wheatley; #2 - Les Brand; #3 - Bill Wood; #4-6, 8 - Les Jones; #7 - Peter Morris


October 2023 - Observing

We had an impromptu observing evening, when the skies were unexpectedly clear.  The Young Astronomers were able to see the Moon, Jupiter (with its four closest moons) and Saturn through a variety of telescopes and binoculars that we had available - though it was perhaps a bit too light in the early evening, at this time of year, to see many stars. 


The Asterisms talk and activity that we had planned for this meeting will now be held in November. 


Photos #1-2 by Andrew Lyner; #3 by Peter Morris


September 2023 - Cosmic Distances (no meeting in August) -

With a talk and activities led by Les Brand, we had a great evening, learning about cosmic distances: what units are used, and how distances are measured (including the use of parallax, and ‘standard candles’!).  Exciting activities involved the YAs:


  • marking on long strips of paper their estimated locations of the planets. Then they were instructed to fold the back of the strips in sequence and then write down the more accurate locations of the planets. They then turn their strip round to see how close their estimates were to reality.
  • unfurling a very long strip of paper – informally called the “toilet roll” – showing the vast size of the Solar System.  The Sun and inner planets appear huddled together near the beginning, and the rest of the Solar System extends very far out!   


Photos #1-3 by Magda Wheatley; #4 by Andrew Lyner


July 2023 - Hands-on session about rockets and propulsion

Below: Making and propelling paper rockets

Below and below right: The 'stomp rocket' proved very popular!

Video credits:  Above and centre: Joe Bourne;  above right: Shihua Yan

We enjoyed Andrew Lyner's talk about the principles of propulsion, which included a short video showing children – one lying on a skateboard – pushing away from another.  Peter Morris and Magda Wheatley then ran the following activities:

 

  • Straw rockets: the YAs brought some paper rockets printed from templates circulated beforehand, and propelled them by blowing through straws. 
  • Soda rockets: we demonstrated ‘soda rockets’, made of plastic bottles, whereby sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) reacts with vinegar, blowing the corks off the bottles and propelling them into the air. They didn’t all go off, but a few did!
  • The 'stomp rocket' – shooting plastic rockets into the air by stamping on an air-filled device like a small hot water bottle – proved very popular, and was the highlight of the evening.

 

Please see the videos above!  Permission has been obtained from those featured here.  Many thanks to all who helped, or provided these videos. 


Practical, hands-on session about telescopes - June 2023


The Young Astronomers were fascinated to learn all about how telescopes work, and how to use them - and to have a go at astrophotography!  A special 'thank you' to club members Andy Bennett and Ian Moss who helped out with advice, demonstrations and supplying their telescopes for the evening.  The scopes were set up outside, and the YAs used distant terrestrial objects for pointing and focusing, and also observed the Moon.


Photo credits:  1. Liz Watson; 2. Reena Midha; 3 & 4. Les Brand; 5. Reena Midha.


Results of our book competition

We asked Young Astronomers to draw their favourite planet and say why they like it so much. Our thanks are due to UClan Publishing for offering three copies of  'Matilda Meets the Universe' as prizes.  Congratulations to our winners, announced at our June meeting:


Max D’Aiuto, Millie Harvey and Arjun Midha

 

The judges also awarded a runner-up prize of a book token to Esmé Harvey.



May 2023 - Talk about sundials, and sundial-making activity


Having been asked to bring scissors and a torch, the Young Astronomers learned about the principles, uses and development of sundials, and about the Sun's varying path across the sky through the year.  They were shown some models of different types of sundials used through history. 


Also, they experimented with a torch, casting shadows around a stick inserted into a base of plasticine, having marked out the hours; and also cut sundials from paper, creating a gnomon (which casts the shadow) from the paper circle. 


Many thanks to Andrew Lyner for presenting this talk, and running the activities. 


Images below by Andy Bennett


March 2023 - Hertzsprung-Russell (H-R) diagram activity


Using some star details, and sticky coloured stars, to plot absolute magnitude against spectral class, the Young Astronomers learned about the H-R diagram.  This diagram shows the relationship between a star's temperature and its luminosity, and can be used to chart the life cycle of a star.  They built up the chart, and then were shown an actual H-R diagram.  We like to think that the two are very close!  Judge for yourself from the images (courtesy Les Jones) below:

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